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rickybobby

01-24-2009, 10:06 PM

looking at a new mouse or keyboard? Looking at purchasing a new computer? Want to build your own but not sure what to get? Can figure out what makes something better than the other? Ask your questions here. Anything from simple what to get questions to Complete Computer Builds i can do it all.

NOTE: If you asking about a purchase be sure to tell me your budget.

jax

01-30-2009, 10:51 PM

I'm not planning on upgrading or buying, but what are you thoughts as far as the AMD vs. Intel debate goes? Which do you prefer...or do you go both ways? :D

rickybobby

01-31-2009, 11:01 AM

I prefer Intel and generally always have. Intel dominates and has since the Core 2 Architechture and its gotten nothing but better with its new Nehalem Architecture AKA Core i7. Untill AMD can pull their heads out of their asses Intel will dominate.

theTANK77

09-10-2009, 04:44 AM

rickybobby

09-10-2009, 07:59 PM

how would this be for a halfway cheapish system..

case - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4540656&sku=A406-1117

PSU - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4975140

MB - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4439470&sku=B450-2367

CPU - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4924301

RAM - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4364399

Video Card - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4494054

Fans - 120mm x2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4675262&sku=C283-2040

80mm
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1020238&sku=S457-1028

i was going to replace the stock blue fans with the 90cfm red fans and mount the 80mm in the side window
im also putting in a dvd burner

total $541.90
I would suggest this instead
Case - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=141815
PSU - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007111
Motherboard - I have a SLI Capable Motherboard ill sell you for 60 bucks. Still Brand new in the box.
CPU - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10009958
RAM - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010528
GPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339
DVDRW - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010832

Your Fan 120mmx2 - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4675262&sku=C283-2040
Your Fan 80mmx1 - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1020238&sku=S457-1028

That comes down to.
560.92 Im using the fans you posted as well which prolly arent needed at all with the case i used.

Ill explain why i picked what i did.
Coolermaster case was picked because its cheap and name brand with a good warranty that youll likely never have to use. The case looks way better and is likely built better as in structure but by design and layout as well. The one you picked looks like a space ship. :)

The PSU i picked because ill only build using corsair Power Supplies. They are the leader in the PSU industry. I used to pick PC Power and Cooling but OCZ bought them out. I hate OCZ products because they are midrange products marked up to high end prices. Their power supplies have a 80% failure rate and now that they own PC Power and Cooling They failure rate has skyrocketed as well. Corsair for Power Supplies....You cant go wrong.

The motherboard i have is a Asus P5N-D. It has a nvidia SLI chipset in it so overclocking CPU, Memory and Video cards is possible. It also does SLI and have much better upgradability than the uATX board you chose. This one also supports double the memory the one you picked does.

The CPU is a entry level Core 2 Duo. Core 2s are beasts and overclock great. You also have the ability to upgrade to a better core 2 duo, a Core 2 Quad or even a Core 2 Extreme later on down the road.

I picked the ram because the ram you had wasnt a standard memory rating. Ive never heard of PC8800 DDR2-1100. The motherboard you had selected doesnt default to that and im betting wouldnt even like that ram since it runs odd speeds. If it did work it would have underclocked itself to run at the default speed. You have to overclock to get it that high. Also picked corsair because they are the best in Memory. The highest and best overclockers out there always use corsair.

I picked the GPU because you had the GTS250. The GTS 250 is a renamed and marked up 9800 series card. I picked out a factory overclocked 9800GTX+ card for 5 bucks more. Its EVGA so it will have a lifetime warranty. EVGA makes great products. Again they have the awesome warranty that youll prolly never use but is there. EVGA ships overclocking with their cards from the factory so you can overclock it.

I picked that DVDRW because its dirt cheap and has been reviewed as the best DVDRW on the market. It comes with software as well.

Case fans. I included them in the price just for fun. You likely wont need them at all. That core i7 computer i built used the 2 factory 120mm fans on the case with no problem. I could actually turn them off and it would stay cool for a while. Unless you having cooling problems dont worry about fans. As for high CFM check the sound rating cause they can be loud. I have a set of 85 CFM 80mm fans and they can be heard in another room when i have the fan controller set to low.

Basically i speced this computer out using all mid range name brand products that i know will perform. for 40 more than yours. 32 of that being the DVDRW.

theTANK77

09-10-2009, 09:09 PM

I would suggest this instead
Case - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=141815
PSU - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007111
Motherboard - I have a SLI Capable Motherboard ill sell you for 60 bucks. Still Brand new in the box.
CPU - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10009958
RAM - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010528
GPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339
DVDRW - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010832

Your Fan 120mmx2 - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4675262&sku=C283-2040
Your Fan 80mmx1 - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1020238&sku=S457-1028

That comes down to.
560.92 Im using the fans you posted as well which prolly arent needed at all with the case i used.

Ill explain why i picked what i did.
Coolermaster case was picked because its cheap and name brand with a good warranty that youll likely never have to use. The case looks way better and is likely built better as in structure but by design and layout as well. The one you picked looks like a space ship. :)

The PSU i picked because ill only build using corsair Power Supplies. They are the leader in the PSU industry. I used to pick PC Power and Cooling but OCZ bought them out. I hate OCZ products because they are midrange products marked up to high end prices. Their power supplies have a 80% failure rate and now that they own PC Power and Cooling They failure rate has skyrocketed as well. Corsair for Power Supplies....You cant go wrong.

The motherboard i have is a Asus P5N-D. It has a nvidia SLI chipset in it so overclocking CPU, Memory and Video cards is possible. It also does SLI and have much better upgradability than the uATX board you chose. This one also supports double the memory the one you picked does.

The CPU is a entry level Core 2 Duo. Core 2s are beasts and overclock great. You also have the ability to upgrade to a better core 2 duo, a Core 2 Quad or even a Core 2 Extreme later on down the road.

I picked the ram because the ram you had wasnt a standard memory rating. Ive never heard of PC8800 DDR2-1100. The motherboard you had selected doesnt default to that and im betting wouldnt even like that ram since it runs odd speeds. If it did work it would have underclocked itself to run at the default speed. You have to overclock to get it that high. Also picked corsair because they are the best in Memory. The highest and best overclockers out there always use corsair.

I picked the GPU because you had the GTS250. The GTS 250 is a renamed and marked up 9800 series card. I picked out a factory overclocked 9800GTX+ card for 5 bucks more. Its EVGA so it will have a lifetime warranty. EVGA makes great products. Again they have the awesome warranty that youll prolly never use but is there. EVGA ships overclocking with their cards from the factory so you can overclock it.

I picked that DVDRW because its dirt cheap and has been reviewed as the best DVDRW on the market. It comes with software as well.

Case fans. I included them in the price just for fun. You likely wont need them at all. That core i7 computer i built used the 2 factory 120mm fans on the case with no problem. I could actually turn them off and it would stay cool for a while. Unless you having cooling problems dont worry about fans. As for high CFM check the sound rating cause they can be loud. I have a set of 85 CFM 80mm fans and they can be heard in another room when i have the fan controller set to low.

Basically i speced this computer out using all mid range name brand products that i know will perform. for 40 more than yours. 32 of that being the DVDRW.

i like the looks of the case i picked so maybe...

the psu even though it is better im going to have to say no because its double the price..
but i did go with a better one
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4435075&sku=T13-1115
after a mir its the same price

the mb and cpu i would have to say no because i want to use amd... the amd phenom 2 x2 that i chose is faster, has double the catch, and almost double the fsb. not to mention it is $20 cheaper and you can oc it just as well expeciall if i decide to get the black edition with an unlocked multiplier
if i even decide to oc anything
and with the mb i dont really need anything special hence y i chose a biostar mb. i dont need double the ram slots either because im not going to be running any more than 4gb

the ram i am going to have to say no because there is no heat spreader so it will run kinda hot and im not going to use the ocz ill use these
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4242488&CatId=3413

the video card im going to have to say no because the one you chose has 512mb ram and the 250 is 1gb. plus the 250 has faster clocks and as you said is cheaper.

and the dvd burner id prolly have to say yeh because the one i chose is no longer available

and the 120mm fans are 90cfm at 19dba... i would wrather have more fans because the cooler it runs the better it runs.

with all of my choices i actually brought the price down to 520

rickybobby

09-10-2009, 09:23 PM

theTANK77

09-11-2009, 05:41 PM

then i cant help you. Have fun with the Dollar store parts you want. Especially when they break. I never understood why people ask me about computer stuff and do what they want anyway.

What would i know? im just a certified professional.

im sorry about doubting you ricky but the only reason i chose those parts is because yes they are cheaper but i wanted to run a amd based system. i chose that psu because i just put a 400w coolmax in my gfs comp that ive had and have been using for 5 years now. i dont doubt that you are a professional computer technition i do respect your choices and i dont doubt that the 9800gtx is the same but the one you chose is only a 512mb and i wanted at least a 1gb yes i will look at getting a evga but the pny is the first one i found so thats y i chose it. but i rose my budget to 600 and these are the new parts i chose going along with the better brands that you chose.

video card - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4410177&sku=E145-9854

mb - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4965075&sku=A455-2891

ram - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4777700&sku=P33-6086

and what do you think of this psu
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4398390&CatId=2534

rickybobby

09-12-2009, 03:02 AM

im sorry about doubting you ricky but the only reason i chose those parts is because yes they are cheaper but i wanted to run a amd based system. i chose that psu because i just put a 400w coolmax in my gfs comp that ive had and have been using for 5 years now. i dont doubt that you are a professional computer technition i do respect your choices and i dont doubt that the 9800gtx is the same but the one you chose is only a 512mb and i wanted at least a 1gb yes i will look at getting a evga but the pny is the first one i found so thats y i chose it. but i rose my budget to 600 and these are the new parts i chose going along with the better brands that you chose.

video card - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4410177&sku=E145-9854

mb - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4965075&sku=A455-2891

ram - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4777700&sku=P33-6086

and what do you think of this psu
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4398390&CatId=2534

Its the fact that you asked me about the build, i reconstructed it using top quality name brand parts making it an all around better computer. for 20 bucks more. I dont deal with AMD because honestly anything after the Athlon XP series is complete garbage. You want 1GB of GPU RAM but that card wont ever use that much. I used the card i suggested with CSS on the absolute max settings and got well over 500FPS. You say the AMD FSB is twice as fast. Its diff technology. Intel Core 2 architecture used the old bus technology and still beat AMD. Core I7 is using AMDs FSB Technology and totally making them look stupid. AMDs dont overclock like Intels. All AMD CPUs are like Celerons. The ram for not having a heat spreader? LOL you will never get ram hot with systems like this. The thing is, i know for a fact i could build the system i speced out and it would be faster than the one you spec. Ive been playing with computers since the 486. In fact i was the only one in my class who knew anything about legacy computer hardware and server platforms.

After all that and the fact you want an AMD i cant help you. You get what you pay for.

[RS]Chemo

09-12-2009, 04:05 AM

LOLZ! don't worry Tank, I got the same basic run down, on a thread like this on the RS site.

* as another suggestion,...Get a Socket T mobo and a decent quad core. make sure you get a BTX case, or you'll be shitty if ya don't!

A socket T(BTX stands for : Balanced Technology Extended, supports Intel 775 cpu's. Dual/Quad. DDR2. PCi-Express, Sata,.. etc. And they are CHEAP.* well, most are. Here is on at this site :

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BOXD945GCZLR&cat=MBB

Get a Intel Quad Core,* or core 2 dou or Dual Core,.. whatever,... slap in some fast ram, a decent vcard, and the most important, a BTX case. See they make em ass backwards. *they thought it would aid in keeping the heat inside the case/system lower if they made it this way. or something like that.
here's a nice bare bone kit, *same case Dell/Gateway uses for the XPS 410 series pc's.

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GW-FX-250-D915GMH&cpc=SCH

IDK much about socket T except they are ass backwards. Look at one BTX mobo and a regular ATX mobo, you will see what I mean.

My daughter's Gatway XPS 410, mobo crapped out, Gateway techs are over paid dorks, and there company wont stand by their warranty and replace the mobo, even after 5 home visits from a tech. "oh it must be the video card, here, try a new one" *of the same model. Hey, dumbass Gateway/Dell guy, maybe after 5 new video cards, you might of thought it was the PCI-Express slot that was crappin out? ZOMG! IDIOTS!!

IDK. i had to rage on them IDIOTS at Gateway!

Tank, get what whatever you think you will be happy with. And game on bro!!

[RS]Chemo

09-12-2009, 04:37 AM

Just to spam more about this, here's a list of supported CPU's.

List of ALL CPU's that are compatable as of Bios DXP061-020501

PR173 Presler P4 915, 2.80G, 2X2MB, 800FSB, D0
UY273 Presler P4 915, 2.08G, 2X2MB, 800FSB, C1
YW816 Presler P4 925, 3.00G, 2X2MB, 800FSB, D0
XJ848 Presler P4 930, 3.00G, 2X2MB, 800FSB, C1
PU963 Presler PD 935, 3.20G, 2X2MB, 800FSB, D0
DK050 Presler P4 940, 3.20G, 2X2MB, 800FSB, C1
RT922 Presler P4 945, 3.40G, 2X2MB, 800FSB, C1
UJ776 Presler P4 950, 3.40G, 2X2MB, 800FSB, C1
CJ163 Presler P4 960, 3.60G, 2x2MB, 800FSB, B1

DK593 Cedar Mill 631, 3.00G, 2MB, 800FSB, C1
PN407 Cedar Mill 641, 3.20G, 2MB, 800FSB, D0
PY394 Cedar Mill 641, 3.20G, 2MB, 800FSB, C1
KU339 Cedar Mill 651, 3.40G, 2MB, 800FSB, D0
PY395 Cedar Mill 651, 3.40G, 2MB, 800FSB, C1
DK594 Cedar Mill 661, 3.60G, 2MB, 800FSB, C1
DT883 Cedar Mill 661, 3.60G, 2MB, 800FSB, D0

HU587 Conroe E4300, 1.80G, 2MB, 800FSB, L2
DX483 Conroe E4400, 2.00G, 2MB, 800FSB, L2
RX522 Conroe E4400, 2.00G, 2MB, 800FSB, M0
DT893 Conroe E6300, 1.86G, 2MB, 1066FSB, B2
DU362 Conroe E6300, 1.86G, 2MB, 1066FSB, L2
DX485 Conroe E6320, 1.86G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2
DU361 Conroe E6400, 2.13G, 2MB, 1066FSB, L2
KN977 Conroe E6400, 2.13G, 2MB, 1066FSB, B2
DX484 Conroe E6420, 2.13G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2
KU345 Conroe E6600, 2.40G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2
PN416 Conroe E6700, 2.66G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2
WM543 Conroe XE X6800, 2.93G, 4MB, 1066FSB, B2

FG941 Smithfield P4 820, 2.80G, 2MB, 800FSB, Mainstream, B0
UY272 Smithfield P4 805, 2.66G, 2X1MB, 533FSB, B0

HU585 Kentsfield Quad Core Q6600, 2.40G, 8MB, 1066FSB, B30
MP626 Kentsfield Quad Core Q6600, 2.40G, 8MB, 1066FSB, G0

UT713 Prescott P4 531, 3.0G, 800FSB, 1MB, ALT, G1
UT714 Prescott P4 541, 3.2G, 800FSB, 1MB, ALT, G1
UY274 Prescott P4 524, 3.06G, 1MB, 533FSB, G1

My daughter's XPS 410 had* lol,.. has a 775 Quad Core 2.40 Ghz cpu, 8 Gigs of DDR2. and the usual extras.

She spent well over $ 2000.00 for that thing, 2 years ago. :eek:

At the Gateway site, there is a trade in estimator,..

Trade-In Estimate
PC Desktop
CONDITION: GOOD : okay, well it still looks, "good" :)
MANUFACTURER: Gateway
CPU BRAND: Intel Core 2 QUAD
CPU SPEED: 2.01 ghz to 2.5 ghz :2.40 GHz
MEMORY: 3 GB OR MORE : 4
TOTAL HARD DRIVE SPACE: 400 GB TO 599 GB : 1 x500
CD / DVD DRIVES: DUAL LAYER DVD+/-RW DRIVE
BLU-RAY OPTIONS: NOT INSTALLED
OPERATING SYSTEM (WITH INSTALL DISCS): WINDOWS VISTA :Premium
KEYBOARD: STANDARD KEYBOARD
MOUSE / POINTING DEVICE: STANDARD MOUSE
NETWORK ADAPTER: YES - Wired Network Adapter
POWER CORD: INCLUDED
GRAPHICS / DISPLAY CARD: 512MB UPGRADED VIDEO CARD : uhm,.. idk yet. i say at least a 512Mb
SECOND GRAPHICS / DISPLAY CARD: NOT INSTALLED
INTEGRATED MONITOR
(NOT A STAND ALONE MONITOR): NO BUILT-IN MONITOR
WIPE HARD DRIVE AND REMOVE PERSONAL DATA
($15 SERVICE FEE WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM YOUR TRADE-IN VALUE): NO, I WILL DO IT MYSELF
Estimated Trade-in Value
(includes a Prepaid shipping label) $270.00 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ZOMFG!
LOLZ!

but lol,..$ 1730.00 loss in just two years.

AMD is priced for a modest gamer. If you think there junk, that's fine. but they work. You get what you pay for. But dont get all high end and in the END, you have something that is worth NOTHING!!

* iz contune to drink more STFU and POST TITS! or GTFO!! :D

rickybobby

09-12-2009, 06:55 AM

Anyway yea. Chemo I don't think Ricky is saying that AMD doesn't have it's uses. But if he wants to shell out money for a good quality computer, Intel is the way to go, without a doubt.

Especially when a better performing intel system can be had for just 20 dollars more.

I dunno WTF chemo is talking about with BTX and Socket T.

As for 2 years having junk? Core 2 is on its 5th year and you can still buy them. Far from obsolete. AMD comes out with a new Socket every year now. making their products obsolete much faster.

If you dont have anything to ask and are truly seeking advice then dont post in here or ill remove the thread.

theTANK77

09-12-2009, 05:07 PM

what would be better a single evga 9800 gtx1gb or sli 2 evga 9500 gts 1gb each

i was jw cause the 9800 is 134.99 and the 9500s are 64.99 each

[RS]Chemo

09-13-2009, 01:46 AM

I dunno WTF chemo is talking about with BTX and Socket T.

.

WHAT ? your telling me you never heard of Intel's BTX form factor ? LOLZ! It's called Socket T, why, IDK. But you can slap in any 775 cpu and game on.

*it's just old, and really never caught on, They just stuck with regular ATX for form factor. Kinda of a "fad" that lasted maybe two years.

Byt,.. WTF ever. You FXXkers better be in Vent! and you all better be drunk! Cause I just open this new bottle of rum and i plan on getting shit faced naked drunk!

** got a new cam!! :eek:

rickybobby

09-13-2009, 03:51 AM

BTX was garbage and the only people who use it is Dell.

Socket T is LGA 775, LGA 775 is Socket T.

Socket B is LGA 1366 , LGA 1366 is Socket B.

Socket H is LGA 1156 , LGA 1156 is Socket H.

karateboy446

09-16-2009, 09:07 PM

so my computer has the worst graphics card available, lol, the NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE, and i can get this Stealth S60 Graphics Accelerator Card Featuring ATI Radeon 7000 for free, and was wondering if this would help any?

rickybobby

09-16-2009, 10:30 PM

Any Stand alone graphics card is better than on board graphics. But the S60 seems like it will have the same performance. If its free take it and give it a shot.

karateboy446

09-16-2009, 11:15 PM

Any Stand alone graphics card is better than on board graphics. But the S60 seems like it will have the same performance. If its free take it and give it a shot.

ok thx, but it says its an accellerator, so does that mean its just a normal graphics card, because on the box it says its only 32 mb, and that wont hold up for anything

rickybobby

09-16-2009, 11:21 PM

How much ram does your current one have? Graphics accelerator is what they used to be called. This is pretty old hardware. Now almost every computer has a graphics card. Im gonna forcast that if there is a gain it will be marginal, there is a possibility you might loose some performance, but i think it will be about the same. like i said. its free give it a shot.

Edit do you just have PCI slots in your computer or doy ou have AGP or PCI Express?
If your not sure just post the make and model of the computer.

karateboy446

09-16-2009, 11:33 PM

NECRO

09-17-2009, 08:43 PM

hey what graphics card would you suggest for me, my computer only has pci slots and one agp, no pci-e and which is better agp or pci? btw budget range is 150-250

[RS]Chemo

09-17-2009, 09:18 PM

looking at a new mouse or keyboard? Looking at purchasing a new computer? Want to build your own but not sure what to get? > Can < :D figure out what makes something better than the other? Ask your questions here. Anything from simple what to get questions to Complete Computer Builds i can do it all.

NOTE: If you asking about a purchase be sure to tell me your budget.

CAN"T figure out why, you don't do a spell check :D

Do you do laptops ?

[RS]Chemo

09-17-2009, 09:22 PM

hey what graphics card would you suggest for me, my computer only has pci slots and one agp, no pci-e and which is better agp or pci? btw budget range is 150-250

ever think about a new mobo? what CPU do you have ? think about a newer one ? How old is your current pc ? for 250, you can get a new cpu,mobo, and a low end pci-e video card. just depends on your " standards" >INTEL, AMD, Nivida, ATI,...

Does your mom wear panties ? if so, what color are they,... RIGHT NOW ???? :D

rickybobby

09-17-2009, 09:26 PM

hey what graphics card would you suggest for me, my computer only has pci slots and one agp, no pci-e and which is better agp or pci? btw budget range is 150-250

PCI<AGP<PCI Express

If you have AGP here is your best option.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150433

If you had PCI-E i would suggest this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130497

rickybobby

09-17-2009, 09:33 PM

im not sure, Compaq Presario PC SR5152nx Processor: AMD AthlonTM 64 X2, Dual-Core Processor 4000+, I do know the memory is 2gb

hmm not sure they used alot of diff stuff in that model

turn your computer off and pop the side off of it. Tell me which of these slots you have on your motherboard.

http://www.darkwire.com.au/assets/images/pci-express-card.jpg

theTANK77

09-17-2009, 09:44 PM

hmm not sure they used alot of diff stuff in that model

turn your computer off and pop the side off of it. Tell me which of these slots you have on your motherboard.

http://www.darkwire.com.au/assets/images/pci-express-card.jpg

yeh thats not gunna happen his mom would get pissed lol

rickybobby

09-17-2009, 10:01 PM

Do it while shes not home lol.

karateboy446

09-17-2009, 11:56 PM

yeh thats not gunna happen his mom would get pissed lol

nah, ill just have my dad clean out the dust, lol

NECRO

09-18-2009, 05:34 PM

Chemo;7825']ever think about a new mobo? what CPU do you have ? think about a newer one ? How old is your current pc ? for 250, you can get a new cpu,mobo, and a low end pci-e video card. just depends on your " standards" >INTEL, AMD, Nivida, ATI,...

Does your mom wear panties ? if so, what color are they,... RIGHT NOW ???? :D

could you maybe link me a few options?

theTANK77

09-18-2009, 08:18 PM

well if you wanna get a whole new comp look at these.
total for all these parts is just under $300

case
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1901962&sku=TC3J-4050%20P

MB
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4665138&sku=Z700-2002

CPU
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4675209&sku=I69-6300

HDD
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5203717&sku=TSD-500AADS

Ram
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4173204&CatId=2368

with this setup you should get around an average of 50fps in css with max settings

if you want more than that you can get this too but itll be an extra 85
Video card
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5077920

total with the video card is $381.94

rickybobby

09-18-2009, 11:34 PM

Let's help you out a bit with selecting items. First off, notice the GDDR2 in the 9600GSO of your choice. Dont do that ;) Secondly, TigerDirect, try a more reputable place like NewEgg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121320

ASUS 9600GSO GDDR3 512Mb for only $54. Would eat out that one you listed.

Or you could spend $5 more for something better that is nearly on-par with the 8800GT.

ASUS 9600GT (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121324)
i dont think he understands. He picked the shittier GPU over the one i recomended cause it had 1GB of Ram, when a GTS250 and a 9800 card doesnt need the Ram size but the ram speed.

Like i said before. I was able to get 500FPS out of CSS with a 9800GTX+. thats pretty much a slightly overclocked/glorified 8800GT. Not bad for old technology.

karateboy446

09-18-2009, 11:45 PM

alright, another question, everytime i try to go watch a video on youtubem it says either java is turned of or i need to update adobe flash player, while java is on and i have latest version of adobe flash player

rickybobby

09-19-2009, 01:21 AM

what browser?

[RS]Chemo

09-19-2009, 02:05 AM

what browser?

u isng IE or Firefox ? i use to have the same problem with IE then I switched to Firefox. IDK, about W7, I haven't booted it up in a while.

rickybobby

09-19-2009, 02:06 AM

i myself use chrome. IE is to slow, i dont care for firefox.

[RS]Chemo

09-19-2009, 02:33 AM

i myself use chrome. IE is to slow, i dont care for firefox.

crome or chrome ? :D

rickybobby

09-19-2009, 03:05 AM

chrome just like it says.

theTANK77

09-19-2009, 03:32 AM

i dont think he understands. He picked the shittier GPU over the one i recomended cause it had 1GB of Ram, when a GTS250 and a 9800 card doesnt need the Ram size but the ram speed.

Like i said before. I was able to get 500FPS out of CSS with a 9800GTX+. thats pretty much a slightly overclocked/glorified 8800GT. Not bad for old technology.

i picked the 9600 cause on tiger direct its $85 and the 9800 is $140 i was going to put up a 9500 cause its cheaper but i know i woulda got shit from that too. i did a really budget pc if you want me to go all out and get the best of everything here...

case
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3829132

mb
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5023031

CPU
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4777383&CatId=4072

PSU
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2937371

Video card X2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4837815&CatId=3669

Ram X2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4517039&CatId=4332

optical drives X2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3974830&CatId=3636

HDD X2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4622486&CatId=4217

Monitor X2
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4893175&CatId=2775

Total $6,714.82

NECRO

09-19-2009, 04:06 AM

rickybobby

09-19-2009, 04:24 AM

Tank, i was pointing out that you were picking video cards based on the amount of memory it had which isnt the best thing to do.

If you want the best yoou need to think higher.

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112159&cm_re=lian_li_p80-_-11-112-159-_-Product
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139007
Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188048
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117214
Ram x2
http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16820145255
GPUx3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130510
Physx GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130441
Sound Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102021&cm_re=creative_fatal1ty-_-29-102-021-_-Product
OS Drive x4 Raid 0+1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167024
Storage Drive x4 Raid 0+1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136365
Optical Drive x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136155
Monitors x2
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=223-4890
Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104261&Tpk=g9x
Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126053&Tpk=g19

For a grand total of
$11296.81

Thats all stock coolers with no aftermarket cooling or extra fans.
Net results around 3.80GHz on the CPU and prolly about 15% on the GPU clocks
Want aftermarket air cooling and fans? add about 550 more to that.
Net results around 4.0GHZ on the CPU and around 20% on the GPU.
Want watercooling? add around 1400 to that.
Net results around 4.6GHz on the CPU and around 30% on the GPU.

Want me to go ahead and end this?
In my vocational computer class they asked us to build the most espensive computer possible. 2nd place was a 14K alienware Computer. I took 1st place with this.
http://www.sun.com/servers/highend/m9000/specs.xml

At that time it was around 1.25 Million dollars. Its the size of a Master bedroom.

theTANK77

09-19-2009, 04:24 AM

well i can cut off $92 i already have a 500gb hard drive and a few sticks of ram, so geting the card would be no problem. as im not to familiar with computers though i have no idea how to assemble all the pieces :) and with cutting of that $92 id like to get a more powerfull cpu

you gotta make sure the ram is ddr2. and for a better cpu you can go with this
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4089662&CatId=2758

its a core 2 quad

[RS]Chemo

09-19-2009, 09:18 AM

chrome just like it says.

haha,.. you re edited it,.. but i caught your fubar anyway,..

"crome",...lolz!

theTANK77

09-19-2009, 05:01 PM

Ok seriously, Tank, STOP giving advice.... No offense, but you don't know too much about what you are posting.

A Q8200 is the lowest of low end and is easily beaten by just grabbing an E8400 E0 stepping for around the same price.

AGAIN, stop going to TigerDirect. TigerDirect is notorious for bad RMA service + customer service.

Learn2NewEgg.

You also don't know what the best of anything is. You post first off from TigerDirect, but not only that, you post brands like AOC??? Are you kidding me? TigerDirect doesnt even sell the best of anything. Monitor wise, the best would be from Dell, IPS panel as Ricky showed you in the 30" flavor ;) My personal favorite for what I use is the Dell 2209WA 22" IPS panel, can catch it on sale for $220 and as low as $212.

i chose the 8200 because its still a c2q and its cheap. its a 2.33 quad core... whats the problem with that...... if you actually read the the other posts youd realize that the PDC i chose is $85 and he said he had the ram and hdd that saved him another $92. 85+92=177 which means yes i coulda chose the 8400. you know some people cant always buy the best parts. and as for tigetdirect... i have never had a problem with them in the all times ive ordered from them. you dont have to pay for sales tax and the item is usually sitting at my door in 3 days. whats so bad about that. and idk about you but sitting 2 ft away from 60in of screen might just annoy the hell outa me. but did you even look at the specs of the monitor i put up.... its an LED monitor with 100,000:1 contrast ratio and 2ms response time. you cant get any better than that. im sorry if its not the best brand

Emmaleigh

09-19-2009, 06:59 PM

You even chose a Corsair SSD??? Intel has the SSD market by the balls, everyone knows that.

YEA! everyone duh...

HAHA jk jk :p i don't even know what any of this means..i just thought i would be like chemo and say something random hehe sssoorrrryyy :D

karateboy446

09-19-2009, 11:39 PM

what browser?

internet explorer 8

jax

09-21-2009, 02:38 AM

I think I can clear up some of the confusion, Tank.

In technology, its easy to get caught on on specs. For example, there are dozens of mp3 players out there that are better than the iPod. More storage, better screen, cheaper, faster, etc., but the iPod is better not because of what its specs are; that's why its managed to capture over 70% of all mp3 player sales.

That said, you need to take more into account than the price/speed/no sales tax, etc. and look at the technology used, reliability, and performance. That's what counts.